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hope2007
07-18 03:16 PM
It seems few applicants who mailed on 6/29 or 6/30 did got RD of 7/2
http://www..com/usa-immigration-trackers/i485-tracker1/
just wondering how ???
http://www..com/usa-immigration-trackers/i485-tracker1/
just wondering how ???
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arkrish68
01-17 12:03 PM
Though I am not affected, but count on me
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pavish
05-09 09:39 AM
Please remember that ICICI gives LIMITED coverage for anyone above the age of 56. It is mentioned in the "fine print". They have a restriction of say $1200 per day of hospitalization (not sure of the exact amount- but somewhere in that region).
The same is true for TATA Travelguard
It sounds like Comprehensive Insurance from a US company might provide the best "insurance"
The same is true for TATA Travelguard
It sounds like Comprehensive Insurance from a US company might provide the best "insurance"
shishya
06-13 07:42 PM
Lol... looks like then you have to marry an american gori/gora or ABCD. :D Hopefully you will find a partner in india and get married before 485 gets approved
Oh yeah .. but that is provided I can file my 485 by that time. Given my PD was just May 06, I had NO preparation for 485 filing, wonder how much time gathering up all the required docs takes for this filing :)
Oh yeah .. but that is provided I can file my 485 by that time. Given my PD was just May 06, I had NO preparation for 485 filing, wonder how much time gathering up all the required docs takes for this filing :)
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sayantan76
05-24 12:02 AM
i think he may want to be the ceo of iv.
here are my 2 cents..
its nice to talk endlessly about what went wrong and bitch about it till the morning. one thing we all need to realise is this : we are going to have failures. period. just like we have had failures in the past. this is not going to be easy where you win every single legislation. 10% hit rate is success enough given the opposition and difficulties we face. so now, given that our batting average is going to be low, the question is this : everytime we have a failure, if people are going to sit on their butt, smoking their pipe dreams and doing monday morning quarterbacking about what part was wrong, then shouldn't they also volunteer to their local IV section to make it better? lets face it, if you really think something can be done better, then volunteer to the local IV branch and do it. everybody can benefit. but if all you are going to be doing is sitting here and posting negative messages, then you hurt everybody, starting with you. the opposition is much better organized, has more money and has great influences on the political inside. if you are not providing any constructive or organizational help, causing people to be distracted and causing IV core to lose their focus, and if you are not willing to volunteer to make it better, then in my opinion its best to step aside, be quiet and let the people in charge do it. again, if you are not helping, then you hurt everybody starting with you.
in this case, like paskal mentioned, if you think the phone calls were not important, then you haven't seen the victory message from numbersusa where they talked about the deluge of phone calls that were made by their supporters and how crucial it was in throwing out the visa recapture amendment. if anything, perhaps we could have gotten better organized with the calls. But I suspect things also moved much faster than anyone anticipated, including IV core.
lets focus our energies and support IV core and ourselves.
peace
just presenting a possible reason why what paskal proposed in his post does not work well in IV.......its not a question of whether phone calls are important or not....its a question of making a significant number of forum stakeholders (and not 1-2%) get to act on any initiative......fund raising/ calling efforts etc....
i genuinely believe that the core members go above and beyond whats expected to do what they are doing for IV - its truly remarkable...they all have busy lives and it takes great conviction and dedication to take the time out and do this...but why are the people still not responding despite the obvious pitfalls of not acting on GC related initiatives.......
maybe its lethargy, inaction, indifference etc.......but we should be open to considering that just maybe, a vast and silent majority of IVians do not feel a sense of representation in the organization and hence do not react as enthusiastically as they should........legitimacy among the constituents often comes with representation
why did most kingdoms around the world perish and give way to democracies......bcos the kings taxed the public based on their whims and fancies......elected govts may do the same but people still pay up and if they dont agree - they know they have a choice at the next elections.......
and no, i dont deserve to be the CEO - neither do i have a performance track record nor credibility here......should not stop me from voicing a contrarion view though
here are my 2 cents..
its nice to talk endlessly about what went wrong and bitch about it till the morning. one thing we all need to realise is this : we are going to have failures. period. just like we have had failures in the past. this is not going to be easy where you win every single legislation. 10% hit rate is success enough given the opposition and difficulties we face. so now, given that our batting average is going to be low, the question is this : everytime we have a failure, if people are going to sit on their butt, smoking their pipe dreams and doing monday morning quarterbacking about what part was wrong, then shouldn't they also volunteer to their local IV section to make it better? lets face it, if you really think something can be done better, then volunteer to the local IV branch and do it. everybody can benefit. but if all you are going to be doing is sitting here and posting negative messages, then you hurt everybody, starting with you. the opposition is much better organized, has more money and has great influences on the political inside. if you are not providing any constructive or organizational help, causing people to be distracted and causing IV core to lose their focus, and if you are not willing to volunteer to make it better, then in my opinion its best to step aside, be quiet and let the people in charge do it. again, if you are not helping, then you hurt everybody starting with you.
in this case, like paskal mentioned, if you think the phone calls were not important, then you haven't seen the victory message from numbersusa where they talked about the deluge of phone calls that were made by their supporters and how crucial it was in throwing out the visa recapture amendment. if anything, perhaps we could have gotten better organized with the calls. But I suspect things also moved much faster than anyone anticipated, including IV core.
lets focus our energies and support IV core and ourselves.
peace
just presenting a possible reason why what paskal proposed in his post does not work well in IV.......its not a question of whether phone calls are important or not....its a question of making a significant number of forum stakeholders (and not 1-2%) get to act on any initiative......fund raising/ calling efforts etc....
i genuinely believe that the core members go above and beyond whats expected to do what they are doing for IV - its truly remarkable...they all have busy lives and it takes great conviction and dedication to take the time out and do this...but why are the people still not responding despite the obvious pitfalls of not acting on GC related initiatives.......
maybe its lethargy, inaction, indifference etc.......but we should be open to considering that just maybe, a vast and silent majority of IVians do not feel a sense of representation in the organization and hence do not react as enthusiastically as they should........legitimacy among the constituents often comes with representation
why did most kingdoms around the world perish and give way to democracies......bcos the kings taxed the public based on their whims and fancies......elected govts may do the same but people still pay up and if they dont agree - they know they have a choice at the next elections.......
and no, i dont deserve to be the CEO - neither do i have a performance track record nor credibility here......should not stop me from voicing a contrarion view though
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widad2020
03-13 04:40 PM
Keep the good work IV Core.Don't mind Slave comments.We are thankful for your work.
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kumarc123
01-09 09:14 AM
You're right. No offence but no authority seems to be listening to IV suggestions. I agree that people at IV are doing great job, but the problem is nobody is listening. They just don't care. And this think will go on & on. I remember s'body suggesting hunger strike and at that point of time I thought that won't work. But now it seems we have to go extreme and do hunger strike and stuff to pressurize this crappy system.
EB3 people don't think I am being selfish here. The truth is we have to work unitely and pressurize for visa recapture. That will be beneficial for e'body.
Lets target the 'Asses' asking for a kick. Let's all kick ass.
I totally agree with you, I used to visit IV a lot, but was just disappointed with the results from some of its members. Not to blame IV core team, but other members who would just come and read blogs. Specially EAD holder's, I hope their eyes are opening up to new realities. Yesterday, my sister in law entered USA from Newark Airport and she witnessed three people holding HIB visas get cancelled at the immigration point, one had EAD.
All we Desi's want is a free ride, same old mentality, don't want to put in any diligence in this matter, but very quick on pointing short comings on others. Blame game!
Point is, we all need to do something radical, sending flowers again and holding a hunger strike, otherwise, keep coming to IV and keep getting disappointed.
Papu, maybe you can hold something up for once. Schedule a date for some event.
EB3 people don't think I am being selfish here. The truth is we have to work unitely and pressurize for visa recapture. That will be beneficial for e'body.
Lets target the 'Asses' asking for a kick. Let's all kick ass.
I totally agree with you, I used to visit IV a lot, but was just disappointed with the results from some of its members. Not to blame IV core team, but other members who would just come and read blogs. Specially EAD holder's, I hope their eyes are opening up to new realities. Yesterday, my sister in law entered USA from Newark Airport and she witnessed three people holding HIB visas get cancelled at the immigration point, one had EAD.
All we Desi's want is a free ride, same old mentality, don't want to put in any diligence in this matter, but very quick on pointing short comings on others. Blame game!
Point is, we all need to do something radical, sending flowers again and holding a hunger strike, otherwise, keep coming to IV and keep getting disappointed.
Papu, maybe you can hold something up for once. Schedule a date for some event.
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bkarnik
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ThinkTwice
07-12 03:14 PM
go to http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10086
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viva
02-05 05:57 PM
I know you are not threatening to leave. But eventually some one will. It always happens when one or other item is included or excluded from agenda.
Anyways, this isnt about looking weak or strong against anti-immigrants. That is really not the issue here.
Its about how much we can have in our list of items. There is only so much anyone can do. Forget about us, even bigger organizations have priorities in order. Immigration Voice also has to have a priority. We cannot talk to anyone about fixing the H4 issues before the issues of retrogression are talked about. And we cannot talk about ALL OF THEM because there is room for only so much to talk about. There is a limit on everything. Limit on how much funds we have, limit on how much political capital does our lobbyist spend on our organization with lawmakers, limit on how much leverage the lawmaker uses to sponsor an amendment for us. No one has unlimited capacity to get things achieved. So in that sense, H4 issues really cannot be on the list. And as far as "nothing is happening, let's get temporary relief and let's not fight for more numbers" idea is concerned, we are already doing that by trying to get 485 filing provision done in next few days as a temporary relief. Now tell me, how is that not tied to H4s. EVERY SINGLE ITEM on our goals benefits H4 spouses indirectly. Including the short term goals of IV.
Logic - Do not get disheartened!!!!! IV will thrive.. Quality in membership is better than quantity.
Anyways, this isnt about looking weak or strong against anti-immigrants. That is really not the issue here.
Its about how much we can have in our list of items. There is only so much anyone can do. Forget about us, even bigger organizations have priorities in order. Immigration Voice also has to have a priority. We cannot talk to anyone about fixing the H4 issues before the issues of retrogression are talked about. And we cannot talk about ALL OF THEM because there is room for only so much to talk about. There is a limit on everything. Limit on how much funds we have, limit on how much political capital does our lobbyist spend on our organization with lawmakers, limit on how much leverage the lawmaker uses to sponsor an amendment for us. No one has unlimited capacity to get things achieved. So in that sense, H4 issues really cannot be on the list. And as far as "nothing is happening, let's get temporary relief and let's not fight for more numbers" idea is concerned, we are already doing that by trying to get 485 filing provision done in next few days as a temporary relief. Now tell me, how is that not tied to H4s. EVERY SINGLE ITEM on our goals benefits H4 spouses indirectly. Including the short term goals of IV.
Logic - Do not get disheartened!!!!! IV will thrive.. Quality in membership is better than quantity.
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fide_champ
12-11 06:34 PM
Why dont you call VFS and find out what's happening and if they can help you to resolve this?
I might have more information than VFS. The VFS agents don't know what's happening in the consulate. The agents doesn't know more than what is already present in the VFS website.
I might have more information than VFS. The VFS agents don't know what's happening in the consulate. The agents doesn't know more than what is already present in the VFS website.
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hebbar77
05-20 12:58 PM
How about a IV visitor health/medical insurance?
Because of the numbers premium will be damn cheap I am sure!
Because of the numbers premium will be damn cheap I am sure!
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Bradman
11-09 10:06 AM
What you think and suggest is your problem. I know what all i had go through to be where I am today. I did a receive a call on either occasion from the Presidents office. As a matter of fact when I wrote to the FL and the Senators office then too I received calls.
Keep you subject very precise and on the top of envelop remember to mention "Immigration Assistance". Please use ordinary mail 41 cents stamp and wait and watch.
All the best !!!!
Forgot to mention on all the instance I had sent hand written personal letters just stating traumatic situation which I am going through. Also remember this is a request which we are asking for and there is no moral obligation on their part to expedite.
Cheers !!!
Bradman
Keep you subject very precise and on the top of envelop remember to mention "Immigration Assistance". Please use ordinary mail 41 cents stamp and wait and watch.
All the best !!!!
Forgot to mention on all the instance I had sent hand written personal letters just stating traumatic situation which I am going through. Also remember this is a request which we are asking for and there is no moral obligation on their part to expedite.
Cheers !!!
Bradman
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satishku_2000
05-25 03:14 PM
Bashing the system and correcting the imbalances are correct. But some people in this forum are targetting individual persons(some times Senators) and doing personal attacks some times bad words also(I can see atleast 100 postings like that). No one realise the fact that same right we were not able to get in our own country. Can anyone talk to MLA or MP in India by phone when they want if any issue?. So we need to appreciate that we got extra freedom than our own country. If we want to correct problems in the system we have to fight with patient with point in mind that we are aliens compared to those who came here 20 years or 100 years before us.
Everyone on this forum or at least most of us on the forum know what are the downsides in indian system. Every one can write thousands of pages . I agree with you that India has problems and I am the first one to agree.
The momemt one starts comparing both countries , It is a race to bottom. Hope you understand.
At least personally I have so much respect for the system. Dont think that who questions an unfair system is less appreciative of USA.
This is what I sent in the email to an american friend of mine and the response I got from him.
Response from My friend
<b>I agree with your points Satish. I'll forward your letter to my congress persons and my family- they will understand, their grand parents were immigrants like you, willing to work for the "American Dream" !
</b>
On 5/23/07, satish kumar <satishku_2000@XXXXXXXXXXXXX.com> wrote:
Honestly I dont mind joining Mr. Cook in killing this disastrous bill which rewards illegals/undocumented people at the cost of people who are waiting in line by obeying laws.
Honestly I dont have anything against undocumented people and I identify myself with them in aspects of supporting my family backhome. Whatever I have as individual a home and some real estate investments in India happened to me because of America. I used to have high regard for american system of governance , Senates mode of debating issues, the respect for minority and how it is institutionalized into the system with power of fillibuster. Some of these senators have my respect which include John McCain whom I thought to be a quintessintial american and now I have to at least pay attention when a conservative talks about common sense and accuses some one being out of touch :)
They plan on having a CIVICS test , assimiliation tests, english language tests...I think I woud fare better in all these tests than many of the 12 million people to whom Senate is trying to hand out semi green cards immediately and at the same time sending me a message to pack bags and leave.
What senate is doing and frustrating and disgusting. If this passes in its current form it will write a death sentence to my american dream.
Another funny thing about the bill is , Undocumented/illegal people dont have to pay back taxes before they legalize. What would happen if 15 to 20 million american citizens refuse to pay taxes.
I am taxed every month for social security though I am not eligible for any of those benifits as of yet. I always thought if that is the price I have to pay to make America my home I thought I would do that happily.
I still have beleif in the system and hopefully something better comes out .
I am just writing this email to complete my civic responsibility and If I dont speak out nobody will speak on my behalf.
I would appreciate if you can educate some people like your dad ...
Everyone on this forum or at least most of us on the forum know what are the downsides in indian system. Every one can write thousands of pages . I agree with you that India has problems and I am the first one to agree.
The momemt one starts comparing both countries , It is a race to bottom. Hope you understand.
At least personally I have so much respect for the system. Dont think that who questions an unfair system is less appreciative of USA.
This is what I sent in the email to an american friend of mine and the response I got from him.
Response from My friend
<b>I agree with your points Satish. I'll forward your letter to my congress persons and my family- they will understand, their grand parents were immigrants like you, willing to work for the "American Dream" !
</b>
On 5/23/07, satish kumar <satishku_2000@XXXXXXXXXXXXX.com> wrote:
Honestly I dont mind joining Mr. Cook in killing this disastrous bill which rewards illegals/undocumented people at the cost of people who are waiting in line by obeying laws.
Honestly I dont have anything against undocumented people and I identify myself with them in aspects of supporting my family backhome. Whatever I have as individual a home and some real estate investments in India happened to me because of America. I used to have high regard for american system of governance , Senates mode of debating issues, the respect for minority and how it is institutionalized into the system with power of fillibuster. Some of these senators have my respect which include John McCain whom I thought to be a quintessintial american and now I have to at least pay attention when a conservative talks about common sense and accuses some one being out of touch :)
They plan on having a CIVICS test , assimiliation tests, english language tests...I think I woud fare better in all these tests than many of the 12 million people to whom Senate is trying to hand out semi green cards immediately and at the same time sending me a message to pack bags and leave.
What senate is doing and frustrating and disgusting. If this passes in its current form it will write a death sentence to my american dream.
Another funny thing about the bill is , Undocumented/illegal people dont have to pay back taxes before they legalize. What would happen if 15 to 20 million american citizens refuse to pay taxes.
I am taxed every month for social security though I am not eligible for any of those benifits as of yet. I always thought if that is the price I have to pay to make America my home I thought I would do that happily.
I still have beleif in the system and hopefully something better comes out .
I am just writing this email to complete my civic responsibility and If I dont speak out nobody will speak on my behalf.
I would appreciate if you can educate some people like your dad ...
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Bytes4Lunch
08-20 01:01 PM
Good job laying out all usecases "add78".
In my case, I travelled back on AP as my visa extension stamping went pending in Mumbai consulate. Came back here with my I-94 indicating "Parolee" as my new status.
Within 2 weeks, I changed employer as per AC21, they filed for my H1 transfer(premium processing) via Murthy Law Firm. I received a new I94 which put me back in the H1B status. During this 2-3 weeks I was in the US as a parolee I did NOT use the EAD, because you don't have to.
Interestingly after 3 months of my visa application at Mumbai consulate (2 months after I reached US) I received an email from them asking me to submit my passport for stamping. Its unbelievable that they think applicants would still be waiting in India for 3 months and that their employers would still be interested in keeping them, but I guess after all this ordeal I realised, they just don't care.
In my case, I travelled back on AP as my visa extension stamping went pending in Mumbai consulate. Came back here with my I-94 indicating "Parolee" as my new status.
Within 2 weeks, I changed employer as per AC21, they filed for my H1 transfer(premium processing) via Murthy Law Firm. I received a new I94 which put me back in the H1B status. During this 2-3 weeks I was in the US as a parolee I did NOT use the EAD, because you don't have to.
Interestingly after 3 months of my visa application at Mumbai consulate (2 months after I reached US) I received an email from them asking me to submit my passport for stamping. Its unbelievable that they think applicants would still be waiting in India for 3 months and that their employers would still be interested in keeping them, but I guess after all this ordeal I realised, they just don't care.
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gk_2000
04-22 05:19 PM
Well per=country limit is part of the iNS law. So its legal.
From an immigration perspective, green card is a privelege extended to "aliens" and it is the prerogative of the law to ensure a formula thats best for the country.
INS family based immigration law was the one that conjured up the per-country limit to prevent folks from one country from flooding in. Unfortunately, this formula made its way into EB immigration and we are stuck with the consequences today.
So if anything, we should bring up the fallacies in per-country limit as far as skill-based immigration is concerned and get the law changed.
A lawsuit isnt the answer to everything. The chinese EB folks learnt that after spending thousands of dollars and few years on their lawsuit, the judgement they got back was that 'the law is being followed'.
And the comment below about the constitution forbiding anything, with respect to immigration law, is pure nonsense.
1. Constitution overrules any law and has the power to render any law invalid. No nonsense here (which means all that you said about INS,INA etc etc is nonsense)
2. The last para is just your OPINION, so I let it pass
3. Pls refer to my answer to Bugs Bunny, and let me know if you can extend the discussion from that point
From an immigration perspective, green card is a privelege extended to "aliens" and it is the prerogative of the law to ensure a formula thats best for the country.
INS family based immigration law was the one that conjured up the per-country limit to prevent folks from one country from flooding in. Unfortunately, this formula made its way into EB immigration and we are stuck with the consequences today.
So if anything, we should bring up the fallacies in per-country limit as far as skill-based immigration is concerned and get the law changed.
A lawsuit isnt the answer to everything. The chinese EB folks learnt that after spending thousands of dollars and few years on their lawsuit, the judgement they got back was that 'the law is being followed'.
And the comment below about the constitution forbiding anything, with respect to immigration law, is pure nonsense.
1. Constitution overrules any law and has the power to render any law invalid. No nonsense here (which means all that you said about INS,INA etc etc is nonsense)
2. The last para is just your OPINION, so I let it pass
3. Pls refer to my answer to Bugs Bunny, and let me know if you can extend the discussion from that point
ilikekilo
04-24 08:36 PM
Here is the Durbin Grassley outsourcing bill. We will be providing our analysis soon
http://immigrationvoice.org/media/forums/iv/temp/forum_attach/outsourcingbill.pdf
Thanks for the update...looks like they are trying to make it harder for the companies..
http://immigrationvoice.org/media/forums/iv/temp/forum_attach/outsourcingbill.pdf
Thanks for the update...looks like they are trying to make it harder for the companies..
geesee
04-01 08:55 AM
I too got soft LUD yday - 31st March for both mine and wife's applications. Looks like a straight forward update query in the database ;)
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08-11 11:52 AM
Done...
EB3-I - PD: Dec'2003
EB3-I - PD: Dec'2003
hope2007
07-18 03:16 PM
It seems few applicants who mailed on 6/29 or 6/30 did got RD of 7/2
http://www..com/usa-immigration-trackers/i485-tracker1/
just wondering how ???
http://www..com/usa-immigration-trackers/i485-tracker1/
just wondering how ???
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arkrish68
01-17 12:03 PM
Though I am not affected, but count on me
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pavish
05-09 09:39 AM
Please remember that ICICI gives LIMITED coverage for anyone above the age of 56. It is mentioned in the "fine print". They have a restriction of say $1200 per day of hospitalization (not sure of the exact amount- but somewhere in that region).
The same is true for TATA Travelguard
It sounds like Comprehensive Insurance from a US company might provide the best "insurance"
The same is true for TATA Travelguard
It sounds like Comprehensive Insurance from a US company might provide the best "insurance"
shishya
06-13 07:42 PM
Lol... looks like then you have to marry an american gori/gora or ABCD. :D Hopefully you will find a partner in india and get married before 485 gets approved
Oh yeah .. but that is provided I can file my 485 by that time. Given my PD was just May 06, I had NO preparation for 485 filing, wonder how much time gathering up all the required docs takes for this filing :)
Oh yeah .. but that is provided I can file my 485 by that time. Given my PD was just May 06, I had NO preparation for 485 filing, wonder how much time gathering up all the required docs takes for this filing :)
more...
sayantan76
05-24 12:02 AM
i think he may want to be the ceo of iv.
here are my 2 cents..
its nice to talk endlessly about what went wrong and bitch about it till the morning. one thing we all need to realise is this : we are going to have failures. period. just like we have had failures in the past. this is not going to be easy where you win every single legislation. 10% hit rate is success enough given the opposition and difficulties we face. so now, given that our batting average is going to be low, the question is this : everytime we have a failure, if people are going to sit on their butt, smoking their pipe dreams and doing monday morning quarterbacking about what part was wrong, then shouldn't they also volunteer to their local IV section to make it better? lets face it, if you really think something can be done better, then volunteer to the local IV branch and do it. everybody can benefit. but if all you are going to be doing is sitting here and posting negative messages, then you hurt everybody, starting with you. the opposition is much better organized, has more money and has great influences on the political inside. if you are not providing any constructive or organizational help, causing people to be distracted and causing IV core to lose their focus, and if you are not willing to volunteer to make it better, then in my opinion its best to step aside, be quiet and let the people in charge do it. again, if you are not helping, then you hurt everybody starting with you.
in this case, like paskal mentioned, if you think the phone calls were not important, then you haven't seen the victory message from numbersusa where they talked about the deluge of phone calls that were made by their supporters and how crucial it was in throwing out the visa recapture amendment. if anything, perhaps we could have gotten better organized with the calls. But I suspect things also moved much faster than anyone anticipated, including IV core.
lets focus our energies and support IV core and ourselves.
peace
just presenting a possible reason why what paskal proposed in his post does not work well in IV.......its not a question of whether phone calls are important or not....its a question of making a significant number of forum stakeholders (and not 1-2%) get to act on any initiative......fund raising/ calling efforts etc....
i genuinely believe that the core members go above and beyond whats expected to do what they are doing for IV - its truly remarkable...they all have busy lives and it takes great conviction and dedication to take the time out and do this...but why are the people still not responding despite the obvious pitfalls of not acting on GC related initiatives.......
maybe its lethargy, inaction, indifference etc.......but we should be open to considering that just maybe, a vast and silent majority of IVians do not feel a sense of representation in the organization and hence do not react as enthusiastically as they should........legitimacy among the constituents often comes with representation
why did most kingdoms around the world perish and give way to democracies......bcos the kings taxed the public based on their whims and fancies......elected govts may do the same but people still pay up and if they dont agree - they know they have a choice at the next elections.......
and no, i dont deserve to be the CEO - neither do i have a performance track record nor credibility here......should not stop me from voicing a contrarion view though
here are my 2 cents..
its nice to talk endlessly about what went wrong and bitch about it till the morning. one thing we all need to realise is this : we are going to have failures. period. just like we have had failures in the past. this is not going to be easy where you win every single legislation. 10% hit rate is success enough given the opposition and difficulties we face. so now, given that our batting average is going to be low, the question is this : everytime we have a failure, if people are going to sit on their butt, smoking their pipe dreams and doing monday morning quarterbacking about what part was wrong, then shouldn't they also volunteer to their local IV section to make it better? lets face it, if you really think something can be done better, then volunteer to the local IV branch and do it. everybody can benefit. but if all you are going to be doing is sitting here and posting negative messages, then you hurt everybody, starting with you. the opposition is much better organized, has more money and has great influences on the political inside. if you are not providing any constructive or organizational help, causing people to be distracted and causing IV core to lose their focus, and if you are not willing to volunteer to make it better, then in my opinion its best to step aside, be quiet and let the people in charge do it. again, if you are not helping, then you hurt everybody starting with you.
in this case, like paskal mentioned, if you think the phone calls were not important, then you haven't seen the victory message from numbersusa where they talked about the deluge of phone calls that were made by their supporters and how crucial it was in throwing out the visa recapture amendment. if anything, perhaps we could have gotten better organized with the calls. But I suspect things also moved much faster than anyone anticipated, including IV core.
lets focus our energies and support IV core and ourselves.
peace
just presenting a possible reason why what paskal proposed in his post does not work well in IV.......its not a question of whether phone calls are important or not....its a question of making a significant number of forum stakeholders (and not 1-2%) get to act on any initiative......fund raising/ calling efforts etc....
i genuinely believe that the core members go above and beyond whats expected to do what they are doing for IV - its truly remarkable...they all have busy lives and it takes great conviction and dedication to take the time out and do this...but why are the people still not responding despite the obvious pitfalls of not acting on GC related initiatives.......
maybe its lethargy, inaction, indifference etc.......but we should be open to considering that just maybe, a vast and silent majority of IVians do not feel a sense of representation in the organization and hence do not react as enthusiastically as they should........legitimacy among the constituents often comes with representation
why did most kingdoms around the world perish and give way to democracies......bcos the kings taxed the public based on their whims and fancies......elected govts may do the same but people still pay up and if they dont agree - they know they have a choice at the next elections.......
and no, i dont deserve to be the CEO - neither do i have a performance track record nor credibility here......should not stop me from voicing a contrarion view though
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widad2020
03-13 04:40 PM
Keep the good work IV Core.Don't mind Slave comments.We are thankful for your work.
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kumarc123
01-09 09:14 AM
You're right. No offence but no authority seems to be listening to IV suggestions. I agree that people at IV are doing great job, but the problem is nobody is listening. They just don't care. And this think will go on & on. I remember s'body suggesting hunger strike and at that point of time I thought that won't work. But now it seems we have to go extreme and do hunger strike and stuff to pressurize this crappy system.
EB3 people don't think I am being selfish here. The truth is we have to work unitely and pressurize for visa recapture. That will be beneficial for e'body.
Lets target the 'Asses' asking for a kick. Let's all kick ass.
I totally agree with you, I used to visit IV a lot, but was just disappointed with the results from some of its members. Not to blame IV core team, but other members who would just come and read blogs. Specially EAD holder's, I hope their eyes are opening up to new realities. Yesterday, my sister in law entered USA from Newark Airport and she witnessed three people holding HIB visas get cancelled at the immigration point, one had EAD.
All we Desi's want is a free ride, same old mentality, don't want to put in any diligence in this matter, but very quick on pointing short comings on others. Blame game!
Point is, we all need to do something radical, sending flowers again and holding a hunger strike, otherwise, keep coming to IV and keep getting disappointed.
Papu, maybe you can hold something up for once. Schedule a date for some event.
EB3 people don't think I am being selfish here. The truth is we have to work unitely and pressurize for visa recapture. That will be beneficial for e'body.
Lets target the 'Asses' asking for a kick. Let's all kick ass.
I totally agree with you, I used to visit IV a lot, but was just disappointed with the results from some of its members. Not to blame IV core team, but other members who would just come and read blogs. Specially EAD holder's, I hope their eyes are opening up to new realities. Yesterday, my sister in law entered USA from Newark Airport and she witnessed three people holding HIB visas get cancelled at the immigration point, one had EAD.
All we Desi's want is a free ride, same old mentality, don't want to put in any diligence in this matter, but very quick on pointing short comings on others. Blame game!
Point is, we all need to do something radical, sending flowers again and holding a hunger strike, otherwise, keep coming to IV and keep getting disappointed.
Papu, maybe you can hold something up for once. Schedule a date for some event.
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07-12 03:14 PM
go to http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10086
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viva
02-05 05:57 PM
I know you are not threatening to leave. But eventually some one will. It always happens when one or other item is included or excluded from agenda.
Anyways, this isnt about looking weak or strong against anti-immigrants. That is really not the issue here.
Its about how much we can have in our list of items. There is only so much anyone can do. Forget about us, even bigger organizations have priorities in order. Immigration Voice also has to have a priority. We cannot talk to anyone about fixing the H4 issues before the issues of retrogression are talked about. And we cannot talk about ALL OF THEM because there is room for only so much to talk about. There is a limit on everything. Limit on how much funds we have, limit on how much political capital does our lobbyist spend on our organization with lawmakers, limit on how much leverage the lawmaker uses to sponsor an amendment for us. No one has unlimited capacity to get things achieved. So in that sense, H4 issues really cannot be on the list. And as far as "nothing is happening, let's get temporary relief and let's not fight for more numbers" idea is concerned, we are already doing that by trying to get 485 filing provision done in next few days as a temporary relief. Now tell me, how is that not tied to H4s. EVERY SINGLE ITEM on our goals benefits H4 spouses indirectly. Including the short term goals of IV.
Logic - Do not get disheartened!!!!! IV will thrive.. Quality in membership is better than quantity.
Anyways, this isnt about looking weak or strong against anti-immigrants. That is really not the issue here.
Its about how much we can have in our list of items. There is only so much anyone can do. Forget about us, even bigger organizations have priorities in order. Immigration Voice also has to have a priority. We cannot talk to anyone about fixing the H4 issues before the issues of retrogression are talked about. And we cannot talk about ALL OF THEM because there is room for only so much to talk about. There is a limit on everything. Limit on how much funds we have, limit on how much political capital does our lobbyist spend on our organization with lawmakers, limit on how much leverage the lawmaker uses to sponsor an amendment for us. No one has unlimited capacity to get things achieved. So in that sense, H4 issues really cannot be on the list. And as far as "nothing is happening, let's get temporary relief and let's not fight for more numbers" idea is concerned, we are already doing that by trying to get 485 filing provision done in next few days as a temporary relief. Now tell me, how is that not tied to H4s. EVERY SINGLE ITEM on our goals benefits H4 spouses indirectly. Including the short term goals of IV.
Logic - Do not get disheartened!!!!! IV will thrive.. Quality in membership is better than quantity.
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fide_champ
12-11 06:34 PM
Why dont you call VFS and find out what's happening and if they can help you to resolve this?
I might have more information than VFS. The VFS agents don't know what's happening in the consulate. The agents doesn't know more than what is already present in the VFS website.
I might have more information than VFS. The VFS agents don't know what's happening in the consulate. The agents doesn't know more than what is already present in the VFS website.
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hebbar77
05-20 12:58 PM
How about a IV visitor health/medical insurance?
Because of the numbers premium will be damn cheap I am sure!
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Bradman
11-09 10:06 AM
What you think and suggest is your problem. I know what all i had go through to be where I am today. I did a receive a call on either occasion from the Presidents office. As a matter of fact when I wrote to the FL and the Senators office then too I received calls.
Keep you subject very precise and on the top of envelop remember to mention "Immigration Assistance". Please use ordinary mail 41 cents stamp and wait and watch.
All the best !!!!
Forgot to mention on all the instance I had sent hand written personal letters just stating traumatic situation which I am going through. Also remember this is a request which we are asking for and there is no moral obligation on their part to expedite.
Cheers !!!
Bradman
Keep you subject very precise and on the top of envelop remember to mention "Immigration Assistance". Please use ordinary mail 41 cents stamp and wait and watch.
All the best !!!!
Forgot to mention on all the instance I had sent hand written personal letters just stating traumatic situation which I am going through. Also remember this is a request which we are asking for and there is no moral obligation on their part to expedite.
Cheers !!!
Bradman
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satishku_2000
05-25 03:14 PM
Bashing the system and correcting the imbalances are correct. But some people in this forum are targetting individual persons(some times Senators) and doing personal attacks some times bad words also(I can see atleast 100 postings like that). No one realise the fact that same right we were not able to get in our own country. Can anyone talk to MLA or MP in India by phone when they want if any issue?. So we need to appreciate that we got extra freedom than our own country. If we want to correct problems in the system we have to fight with patient with point in mind that we are aliens compared to those who came here 20 years or 100 years before us.
Everyone on this forum or at least most of us on the forum know what are the downsides in indian system. Every one can write thousands of pages . I agree with you that India has problems and I am the first one to agree.
The momemt one starts comparing both countries , It is a race to bottom. Hope you understand.
At least personally I have so much respect for the system. Dont think that who questions an unfair system is less appreciative of USA.
This is what I sent in the email to an american friend of mine and the response I got from him.
Response from My friend
<b>I agree with your points Satish. I'll forward your letter to my congress persons and my family- they will understand, their grand parents were immigrants like you, willing to work for the "American Dream" !
</b>
On 5/23/07, satish kumar <satishku_2000@XXXXXXXXXXXXX.com> wrote:
Honestly I dont mind joining Mr. Cook in killing this disastrous bill which rewards illegals/undocumented people at the cost of people who are waiting in line by obeying laws.
Honestly I dont have anything against undocumented people and I identify myself with them in aspects of supporting my family backhome. Whatever I have as individual a home and some real estate investments in India happened to me because of America. I used to have high regard for american system of governance , Senates mode of debating issues, the respect for minority and how it is institutionalized into the system with power of fillibuster. Some of these senators have my respect which include John McCain whom I thought to be a quintessintial american and now I have to at least pay attention when a conservative talks about common sense and accuses some one being out of touch :)
They plan on having a CIVICS test , assimiliation tests, english language tests...I think I woud fare better in all these tests than many of the 12 million people to whom Senate is trying to hand out semi green cards immediately and at the same time sending me a message to pack bags and leave.
What senate is doing and frustrating and disgusting. If this passes in its current form it will write a death sentence to my american dream.
Another funny thing about the bill is , Undocumented/illegal people dont have to pay back taxes before they legalize. What would happen if 15 to 20 million american citizens refuse to pay taxes.
I am taxed every month for social security though I am not eligible for any of those benifits as of yet. I always thought if that is the price I have to pay to make America my home I thought I would do that happily.
I still have beleif in the system and hopefully something better comes out .
I am just writing this email to complete my civic responsibility and If I dont speak out nobody will speak on my behalf.
I would appreciate if you can educate some people like your dad ...
Everyone on this forum or at least most of us on the forum know what are the downsides in indian system. Every one can write thousands of pages . I agree with you that India has problems and I am the first one to agree.
The momemt one starts comparing both countries , It is a race to bottom. Hope you understand.
At least personally I have so much respect for the system. Dont think that who questions an unfair system is less appreciative of USA.
This is what I sent in the email to an american friend of mine and the response I got from him.
Response from My friend
<b>I agree with your points Satish. I'll forward your letter to my congress persons and my family- they will understand, their grand parents were immigrants like you, willing to work for the "American Dream" !
</b>
On 5/23/07, satish kumar <satishku_2000@XXXXXXXXXXXXX.com> wrote:
Honestly I dont mind joining Mr. Cook in killing this disastrous bill which rewards illegals/undocumented people at the cost of people who are waiting in line by obeying laws.
Honestly I dont have anything against undocumented people and I identify myself with them in aspects of supporting my family backhome. Whatever I have as individual a home and some real estate investments in India happened to me because of America. I used to have high regard for american system of governance , Senates mode of debating issues, the respect for minority and how it is institutionalized into the system with power of fillibuster. Some of these senators have my respect which include John McCain whom I thought to be a quintessintial american and now I have to at least pay attention when a conservative talks about common sense and accuses some one being out of touch :)
They plan on having a CIVICS test , assimiliation tests, english language tests...I think I woud fare better in all these tests than many of the 12 million people to whom Senate is trying to hand out semi green cards immediately and at the same time sending me a message to pack bags and leave.
What senate is doing and frustrating and disgusting. If this passes in its current form it will write a death sentence to my american dream.
Another funny thing about the bill is , Undocumented/illegal people dont have to pay back taxes before they legalize. What would happen if 15 to 20 million american citizens refuse to pay taxes.
I am taxed every month for social security though I am not eligible for any of those benifits as of yet. I always thought if that is the price I have to pay to make America my home I thought I would do that happily.
I still have beleif in the system and hopefully something better comes out .
I am just writing this email to complete my civic responsibility and If I dont speak out nobody will speak on my behalf.
I would appreciate if you can educate some people like your dad ...
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Bytes4Lunch
08-20 01:01 PM
Good job laying out all usecases "add78".
In my case, I travelled back on AP as my visa extension stamping went pending in Mumbai consulate. Came back here with my I-94 indicating "Parolee" as my new status.
Within 2 weeks, I changed employer as per AC21, they filed for my H1 transfer(premium processing) via Murthy Law Firm. I received a new I94 which put me back in the H1B status. During this 2-3 weeks I was in the US as a parolee I did NOT use the EAD, because you don't have to.
Interestingly after 3 months of my visa application at Mumbai consulate (2 months after I reached US) I received an email from them asking me to submit my passport for stamping. Its unbelievable that they think applicants would still be waiting in India for 3 months and that their employers would still be interested in keeping them, but I guess after all this ordeal I realised, they just don't care.
In my case, I travelled back on AP as my visa extension stamping went pending in Mumbai consulate. Came back here with my I-94 indicating "Parolee" as my new status.
Within 2 weeks, I changed employer as per AC21, they filed for my H1 transfer(premium processing) via Murthy Law Firm. I received a new I94 which put me back in the H1B status. During this 2-3 weeks I was in the US as a parolee I did NOT use the EAD, because you don't have to.
Interestingly after 3 months of my visa application at Mumbai consulate (2 months after I reached US) I received an email from them asking me to submit my passport for stamping. Its unbelievable that they think applicants would still be waiting in India for 3 months and that their employers would still be interested in keeping them, but I guess after all this ordeal I realised, they just don't care.
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04-22 05:19 PM
Well per=country limit is part of the iNS law. So its legal.
From an immigration perspective, green card is a privelege extended to "aliens" and it is the prerogative of the law to ensure a formula thats best for the country.
INS family based immigration law was the one that conjured up the per-country limit to prevent folks from one country from flooding in. Unfortunately, this formula made its way into EB immigration and we are stuck with the consequences today.
So if anything, we should bring up the fallacies in per-country limit as far as skill-based immigration is concerned and get the law changed.
A lawsuit isnt the answer to everything. The chinese EB folks learnt that after spending thousands of dollars and few years on their lawsuit, the judgement they got back was that 'the law is being followed'.
And the comment below about the constitution forbiding anything, with respect to immigration law, is pure nonsense.
1. Constitution overrules any law and has the power to render any law invalid. No nonsense here (which means all that you said about INS,INA etc etc is nonsense)
2. The last para is just your OPINION, so I let it pass
3. Pls refer to my answer to Bugs Bunny, and let me know if you can extend the discussion from that point
From an immigration perspective, green card is a privelege extended to "aliens" and it is the prerogative of the law to ensure a formula thats best for the country.
INS family based immigration law was the one that conjured up the per-country limit to prevent folks from one country from flooding in. Unfortunately, this formula made its way into EB immigration and we are stuck with the consequences today.
So if anything, we should bring up the fallacies in per-country limit as far as skill-based immigration is concerned and get the law changed.
A lawsuit isnt the answer to everything. The chinese EB folks learnt that after spending thousands of dollars and few years on their lawsuit, the judgement they got back was that 'the law is being followed'.
And the comment below about the constitution forbiding anything, with respect to immigration law, is pure nonsense.
1. Constitution overrules any law and has the power to render any law invalid. No nonsense here (which means all that you said about INS,INA etc etc is nonsense)
2. The last para is just your OPINION, so I let it pass
3. Pls refer to my answer to Bugs Bunny, and let me know if you can extend the discussion from that point
ilikekilo
04-24 08:36 PM
Here is the Durbin Grassley outsourcing bill. We will be providing our analysis soon
http://immigrationvoice.org/media/forums/iv/temp/forum_attach/outsourcingbill.pdf
Thanks for the update...looks like they are trying to make it harder for the companies..
http://immigrationvoice.org/media/forums/iv/temp/forum_attach/outsourcingbill.pdf
Thanks for the update...looks like they are trying to make it harder for the companies..
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04-01 08:55 AM
I too got soft LUD yday - 31st March for both mine and wife's applications. Looks like a straight forward update query in the database ;)
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